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LOCATION:
Gallipoli, Turkey



WHAT HAPPENED:
As the report goes, a British regiment (the First-Fifth Norfolk) marched into a dense, low-hanging "cloud" located at a point called Hill 60 near Sulva Bay.

After the last regimental member entered the "cloud", it floated up to meet other clouds of similar shape.

The regiment was never seen or heard from again.


RESEARCH NOTES:
While reading the first source[1] listed below, we found Paul Begg's narative quite confusing and difficult to follow, but on rereading it; we found that one of his conclusions interesting, especially the one we took the trouble to repeat below:

"And, while on the subject of Reichart telling his story, it is interesting to trace how the tale came into being in the first place. It was first told on 25 august 1965 at an old comrades-at-arms reunion to celebrate the 50th Jubilee of the ANZAC [Australian and New Zealand Army Corps] landing. It was later printed in the September 1965 issue of the New Zealand journal Spaceview and in the March 1966 issue of an American UFO magazine, Flying Saucers. Since then the story of the 'kidnapping cloud' has been told time and again, principally by writers involved with the UFO enigma, among them notables such as Charles Berlitz, Ralph Blum, John Keel, Brad Steiger, Brinsley Le Poer Trench, and Jacques Vallèe, to name a few. Sad to say, not a single one of them would appear to have done any research or made any attempt to verify Reichardt's story."[1]

It's also worth noting that in our original source[2], it described the British regiment as the First-Fourth Norfolk regiment. According to Paul Begg, there were two possible errors in this listing. One was that it was not the First-Fourth, but instead was the First-Fifth. Here's how he analyzed the error:

"Since 1965 this story has been told many times, particularly in books about UFOs, yet it would appear that none of the tellers did much by way of research. If they had, they would have learned that the First-Fourth Norfolk did not disappear in 1915 or at any time thereafter. However, it is an undisputed historical fact that over 200 members of the First-Fifth Norfolk did vanish at Gallipoli, their fate never having been ascertained. Is it therefore possible that Reichhardt, no matter how unbelievable his story, did in fact witness the fate of the First-Fifth and mistakenly identify them as the First-Fourth? Or is his story a complete fabrication, and, if so, what was the fate of the missing soldiers?"[1]

On the basis of this, we changed our original listing from the First-Fourth to the First-Fifth.

The second mistake, according to Paul Begg, was that First-Fifth Norfolk was not regiment. He never explains exactly why, but to us it seemed that he was implying this was because it was too small to be a regiment.

While researching this (using a Wikipedia source[3]), we found that...

"A regiment is a title used by some military units. The size of a regiment varies markedly, depending on the country and the arm of service.

"Originally the term 'regiment' simply denoted a large body of men under a single leader. Historically, in the 17th century, a full-strength regiment was hypothetically a thousand men commanded by a colonel.

"Today, there is no set size for a unit calling itself a 'regiment... '"[3]


And because of this ambiguity about the term "regiment", we decided to keep the term, at least until we do more research on this.

Paul Begg's final analysis of the incident is also worth noting as follows:

"In the final analysis, however, we don't know for certain what fate befell those men, but, in time of war, men and women disappear in the thousands. The Commonwealth War Graves Commission's memorials around the world bear the names of 771,982 Commonwealth dead of the two World Wars who have no known grave. The memorials, mostly located in theatres of war where the casualties were highest, range in size from small tablets bearing a few names to majestic monuments bearing many thousands of names. For example, the Thiepval Memorial to the missing of the Somme bears 72,073 names and the Menin Gate Memorial to the missing Ypres Salient bears 54,360 mames. In light of figures such as these the disappearance of less than 150 men from one of the most bloody and hellish battlefields in modern history cannot be considered unusual."[1]

There are some other small errors noted by Paul Begg, but those above are the two of the most important, but what we found interesting was that he came to the same conclusion, which we've also sometimes come to while searching for the original sources of events listed in our TDIH calendar, and that it seems some of these events were copied from other sources without verifying their accuracy with a search for the original sources.

In conclusion, we can't say whether this event (as we detailed in our What Happened account above) actually happened the way it did, but there's enough supporting evidence to at least keep it listed here, and we leave it up to you dear reader to decide for yourself if you believe it or not.


BIBLIOGRAPHY (SOURCES):
[1] Pages 40-51 from
       Into Thin Air: People Who Disappear

[2] Page 87 from
       UFO: The Definitive Guide...

[3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Regiment


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